Barkley terms agreed

Exactly, a bigger club, the 6th richest in the country, with Champions League football to offer again

Yes - and could very well go higher than 6th richest if we become a 'winning club'. Everything from next season will be in place. Over to you Mr Levy!

Yes they are a good club, but facts are facts, he would be moving to a bigger club.

Do you know your history , big clubs pay big money , you don't see spurs doing that, you are lucky to have a good manager , lets see what the future holds , I would say we are on a par, below Chelsea ManU ManC and Liverpool

Well what news, been hashed and trashed many times, yes we know bales money was wasted - but our future is bright - we have the best manager in the prem and very soon the best stadium in the country and perhaps the world!! True fans here - win lose or draw spurs are in our hearts.

How exactly are Spurs a bigger club than Everton?.Fair enough they are a better team at the moment but Everton have won more silverware,won more top fight points than ANY other club and are moving into a 60,000 seat stadium which is practically the same as Spurs.

Spurs have won more silverware than everton. The new stadium is also a big sign to who the bigger club is. Everton are still one of the big English teams. Teams like Newcastle who haven't won anything since 1969 make me laugh.

Ask anyone outside Liverpool

Everton have won the first division 9 times.. Spurs twice.. More silverware?? Get your facts right.

I like Spurs, you guys should get better than Barkley. The bigger club comment show a bit of amnesia tho, just remembering the past few years. History isnt everything, but thats kinda like saying any Spurs player going to Leicester is moving to a bigger club.

Yep

I love football fans they read this entire article and the only sticking point is the most obvious. No spurs are not at a level of say real Madrid or Bayern but we have been consistently as good as anyone in England the last 5 years even if be we don't have a fax or league cup trophy which we all know poch throws his second squad into but even if we aren't the biggest in England we are certainly bigger than everton look at the magnificent project going on In North London I don't see Crystal palace building a stadium like spurs are everyone are a wonderful club but if u truly think they are bigger than spurs poll the entire uefa community and see how many would pick everton to play for over spurs it's not that close really

A am real, 2nd and 3rd last 2 years, where were you, miles away again. We have been a bigger club for donkeys years. You usually finish below us as you are aware.

DONT GET INVOLVED CLIVE HE SOUNDS LIKE A GOON

Says someone in dreamland, ask anyone in football if you want to get real.

Seems so

he is reported to not like the effort Koeman asks of him so that would be an issue but he must be aware of what Pochettino would require at Spurs and he has seen what he has done for other England internationals. Has abilityt, down to him now, does he want it enough to do what it takes?

Hahaha you spurs fans are beyond deluded. Aston villa were massive once look what happened to them. You're no better than Leeds were in the early 2000s and look where they are now. You go down you think anyone remembers you finishing second? No. We go down we've got 9 league titles. You're the most recent dad and your bubble will burst just like the rest of them.

Fad**

Delude or not, most Tottenham fans will agree that over the last 3 years, Spurs have been a bigger club than Everton however; that is not what this is about. question is, will Barkley be a better prospect at Spurs and I agree with the comments that he wants to leave Everton as he does not like the work rate requested of him and I think this demand will only get worse when Poc is running him. I don't think it is the right move but I hope I am wrong.

The world knows Spurs are bigger, it' just Everton fans who live in Liverpool's shadow who have clouded judgement, no doubt based on envy.

Speaks volumes

All that is long gone history. Happened ages ago. Spurs are NOW a bigger club than Everton. Hands down. No doubt about it. The new stadium alone pushes Spurs into the realm of the upper echelon but a tad behind still because of revenue. While Everton look to be improved, they have a long way to go in the modern game to catch up with Spurs.

tbh everton are on the up like spurs were a couple years ago, everton have a new stadium coming, a new owner, willing to spend money and focus on youth... sounds familiar, also you call for bigger club... like everton spurs aint won anything in a while (2008 to be precise. 2 seasons running in CL is all you have, spurs are like liverpool, get close and bottle it

That's Spurs record, you absolute mongs. You don't know your own clubs history or what?

Do any of you know the list of honours above is spurs honours. Don't believe Barkley will be coming spurs until it's announced on sky sports. Barkley is rubbish. Will never get a start for spurs. Big mistake for him if he chooses spurs.

Yes, Everton are at the start of an upward curve, they have a decent manager and we'll wait to see what effect the money spent has. I think they'll finish 7th.

In England, League titles define a club's size, not cup wins. Everton have always been bigger than Spurs and Champions League qualification does not change that. You are one of 5 clubs that achieved that this season and with your spending that is where you should be. Just got 7 to win to level up with us. Could take a while....

No they don't, are Leicester City are bigger than Everton in recent years? There are things like doubles and European trophies, wage bills, fanbase, many measures.

That's absolutely laughable. There are a big 6 in the modern PL. Everton is not one of them. Spurs are. Keep the delusions coming though. You are a profoundly inept dreamer.

Your correction is in fact incorrect, look at the table over the last 10 years, you've been playing in a different league generally, the best of the rest, a spot I'm expecting you to regain this season. Good luck
Are you in the Champions League again? expectations eh!

Clive spurs will not get in champions league next seasons. Everton will be fighting spurs for the last UEFA cup spot this season. Everton were held back by the 1 dimensional Martinez. With koeman they will be a much bigger challenge this year. They have invested heavily and only time will tell if they are the right signings. You have to think if man United, man city, Chelsea or to an extent Liverpool really wanted deli allI or Harry Kane they would go in a heartbeat. That proves spurs are not in the big 6 because there is a big 5. City, United, Chelsea, Liverpool and arsenal. And that's the order the league will probably finish this year!!!

Everton are an historic club and a fantastic one at that - but to the unknown source who suggested Everton have a bigger fanbase than Spurs - that is just plainly incorrect. Until all seater stadiums came in after the Taylor Report, Tottenham were third in the all time average home gate attendances behind Man U in 1st and only just behind Liverpool in 2nd. Arsenal were 4th and Chelsea in 5th. So by all means have these debates but please do your research properly! Tottenham Hotspur have a huge embedded fanbase for all sorts of historical reasons. I've a feeling it's about to grow substantially more!

The only thing Everton have bigger than Spurs are their league Championship trophies and was decades ago. Of the original big 5 (I'm going back to the 80's: Liv, Man U, Ars, Spurs, Eve) Spurs and Everton are closest regarding where each of these clubs are today. However, there is a Large, Large gap between them with Spurs financially ahead and regarding the football on the pitch we are quite ahead. Yes, 3 years ago we finished below Everton (whilst in between managers (didn't we have caretaker Tim in Charge?)) but every other season it's lots of 5th place finishes, a couple of 4ths, 3rd and now 2nd.

Nothing ill informed about it, will we be meeting you in the Champions League this season, nope, beyond your expectations, not ours. Look at the league table over the last 10 years, tells you all you need to know.

Spurs 11th, 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd.

Everton 5th, 5th, 8th, 7th, 7th, 6th, 5th, 11th, 11th, 7th.

To listen to you you'd think you'd been operating on a different planet, where what it shows is how quickly things can change, and how quickly fans can get arrogant. Ten years ago your 'expectation' was about 10th. Five years ago your 'expectation' was about 5th. Five years ago United's 'expectation' was to win the league.

What you have failed to factor in Clive, is that for years Everton have had virtually no money to spend on players. As you are obviously some form of myopic, navel starer, you probably haven't realised that with Moshiri at the helm, that is markedly no longer the case. New ground also on the way la.
Good luck to Spurs, and also to yourself with your "issues".
Keep taking the medicine.

Haven't forgotten at all, it's part of the reason they are a smaller club and FFP restricts what Moshiri can do

That is the first nervous response you have written Clive.

Just to educate you a little more Clive, as you are obviously stubborn along with your other apparent flaws. Everton are in no remote danger of breaching FFP despite the spending, but thanks for your misguided concern. You may (but probably won't) be aware of issues, such as the 75 million naming rights for the training complex, which was incidentally paid for by one of the worlds richest men's companies allegedly (not too far removed from you !!).
Repeatedly mentioning spending / wealth etc., is somewhat vulgar, in my view, but be assured we can at least compete with you all now. I still wish Spurs the best this year, but try and grow up, "little" man. Oops - got back to the size thing.

No nerves Paul, FFP restrictions apply to players and wages as do PL rules and it isto that I was referring.

Ross is very easily influenced mate. I would not be shocked if Roms behaviour has not got inside his head. As for being punched well, no-one deserves that but, you need to understand his bighead behaviour also...

Don't post from that anti-Spurs website on this Spurs supporting one thanks

Nice to hear from you Paul, all the best for the coming season, one spot below us will be fine thanks. LOL All the best.

One place above both Manchester clubs will do for me thanks Clive. Good luck in the CL and keep the English end up please!

I'm sure we'll do better than last season, picked the wrong sides in Europe, Barkley will help the depth of the squad if he buys into the Poch way.

What we have done domestically is all history mate. I want us to start making history again as do Spurs I am 50 and I've not seen Spurs lift the title but, today they ARE bigger than us, FACT! It is just how it works given the recent success you have had. Jesus, the last time we won the league I was wearing Sergio Tacchini jumpers and I hear they're on the way back ffs!

All our best moves ended with Barkley last season. Ended as in losing the ball or passing it backwards. At the right price Spurs can have him, and he is a million miles from irreplaceable.

Don't know what you are seeing in Barkley mate but, hopefully (fingers crossed) you soon will...

If you remove all of Lukaku's goals from last season we would have remained in 7th with 2 pts less. 9 of his goal were as follows: 4 v B'mouth, 3 v S'land, 2 v Watford. Go on Chuckles your turn?

And that is why you are a failing empire because you tolerate it.

He's stagnated I think, should have left for United a couple of years back in my view, missed a trick. If he joins, as I'm sure he will, hopefully we'll improve him.

Or clever club? Before you point and shoot, I'm a blue...

And I thought football only started 25 years ago with the advent of Sky... You're right but....

Just the one European trophy is it? Everton 25 trophies Spurs 26 trophies

Everton
First Division:
Champions (9): 1890–91, 1914–15, 1927–28, 1931–32, 1938–39, 1962–63, 1969–70, 1984–85, 1986–87
Second Division:
Winners (1): 1930–31
FA Cup:
Winners (5): 1905–06, 1932–33, 1965–66, 1983–84, 1994–95
Football League Cup:
Runners-up (2): 1976–77, 1983–84
FA Charity Shield:
Winners (9): 1928, 1932, 1963, 1970, 1984, 1985, 1986 (shared), 1987, 1995
European Cup Winners' Cup:
Winners: (1): 1984–85

SPURS
Domestic
League competitions

First Division/Premier League:[65][66][67]
Winners (2): 1950–51, 1960–61
Second Division/Championship:[66]
Winners (2): 1919–20, 1949–50
Cup competitions

FA Cup:[5][68]
Winners (8): 1900–01, 1920–21, 1960–61, 1961–62, 1966–67, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1990–91
League Cup:[69]
Winners (4): 1970–71, 1972–73, 1998–99, 2007–08
FA Charity Shield/FA Community Shield:[70]
Winners (7): 1921, 1951, 1961, 1962, 1967*, 1981*, 1991* (*shared)
European
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup:[71]
Winners (1): 1962–63
UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa League:[72]
Winners (2): 1971–72, 1983–84

You can add the central league, we can add London and Southern leagues.

I think the 9 top flight titles versus 2 I believe? wins that argument Clive. Marathon v sprint sunshine, marathon v sprint in the sign of true champions...

Clive - simply gobsmacked mate.
Are you seriously including (as trophies) runners up in the League Cup mate. Since when is that a trophy ! The Charity Shield etc., - get a grip mate again.
You also think it noteworthy to note when you win promotion via winning lower divisions as a badge of honour.
A simple google search will tell you how often Everton have been out of the top Division of English football since being the founder members.
Can you please enlighten me if you did win the top Division title as you claim in 1890 -91.
Can you please also tell me what Winners (2) means in some of your claims.
Please link back tour earlier responses in this thread for all to see.
Despite you being "one" of the highest order, I wish all Spurs fans, and the club a great season ( despite us both being close rivals again). Don't like your noisy neighbours !

Ignore everything that doesn't suit your argument Paul, comical. Just ask anyone outside Liverpool, you'll get your answer.

Clive - I am still waiting for you to answer the questions that I have raised above.
I am sure that all your followers worldwide will also be waiting with baited breath for your pontifications likewise, lol.
Please enlighten us all la.

We don't think we are bigger, we know we are as does the rest of the football world. This isn't the 80's anymore, the football landscape has changed.

Huddersfield, Blackpool, Preston, Wolves, all big clubs previously, just as times have changed for them so they have changed for others.

Size isn't fixed, it fluctuates from Preston and Blackpool to Liverpool, to Man U. Times change and in the current climate Spurs are a bigger club than Everton, that is what the football public outside Liverpool believe, as it is pretty obvious.

Which team has won a double, which team has won more European trophies? Statistics can tell you anything you want.

Ask fans around the country, you'll get only one answer and it won't be Everton.

I'd take 11 Trackies and 4 Stella Black for Ross!

Yeah, but walker had 5 years still to go on his contract that he only signed 10 months ago, Barkley is entering his last year. I personally don't rate or want him. Regardless of how silly today's transfer rates are, £17m is too much

Contract length had a huge bearing on transfer fees, he's free next summer. If he had 5 years on his contract he'd be maximum value, but he doesn't.

No he's a qualified coach who clearly understands the modern game and isn't living in the past.

Correction. Is Clive really a 6 year old using his grandads photo? You could do with taking your mental age out of the schoolyard Clive. You're supposed to grow out of this..

NONE. Newcastle area traditional big club, Huddersfield are, Wolves are, Blackpool are, Preston are, times change. You either bury your head in the sand or you go with it.

They have somewhat spoiled football along with the Platini no tackling rules!

There are many difference as you are aware.

No I don't, sorry you can't handle the truth, conduct a poll of other club fans and you'll find out.

Actually that's merely your opinion, not a fact. There are many factors that define the size of a club in today's game but there are no hard and fast 'rules'.

I think Clive is still seething that they hijacked our Sissoko swoop last year, certainly dodged a bullet there.I like Spurs and they have been a welcome change to the sky darlings, but bigger club, have a word with yourself. Ross being targeted by the boo boys, his punchup in Liverpool is the reason Ross is looking elsewhere, if Utd or Chelsea come knocking you can kiss goodbye to Ross, Levey is playing a dangerous game trying to pay peanuts, I would say a fair valuation would be around the £30-£35 Million mark in today's inflated priced.