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Why We Need To Move


By Damo
For THBN

Many Spurs fans are starting to believe that we are not that far behind our neighbors and deadly rivals Arsenal.

They may be right....for now.

We have never played in the Champions League and have not sampled any type of European competition since 1999, but our famous club is still in the top 20 World's Richest Football Club's List.

We have been adding players like Davids, Routledge, Mido, Defoe, Robinson, etc to our squad, while Arsenal have been fighting to keep some of their stars. Ashley Cole recently signed a new contract, but I wonder how long he'll remain at the club. Vieira, the torn that has dug into us for the past 8 years has also jumped ship. They also failed in attracting top players.

Some of you may be wondering why this article is called "Why We Need To Move"? It's obvious really. Here are some facts:

White Hart Lane Stadium Capacity: Just over 36,000.

Turnover from season tickets: £13.5 million per season (taken from 23,000 seats allocated to season tickets).

Arsenal's Emirates Stadium Capacity: 60,000

Expected turnover from season ticket sales: £30 million (taken from 45,000 seats allocated to season tickets).

While they may not have the funds to compete with us now, they will overhaul us in the next 3 - 5 years.

Now, imagine us having a ground that housed 60,000 seats. We could also have 45,000 seats allocated to season tickets. The turnover from those season tickets would generate approx £30 million. That is an increase of already £16.5 million. That alone could buy us a world class player.

We would then also have an allocation of approx 15,000 seats to fill, which, I am sure, wouldn't be a problem at all.

The stadium expansion needs to be addressed within the next 3 years or there could be a problem as other clubs will soon be out-bidding us.

I am all for us moving from the Lane. It hates me to say that. But most of us that post on THBN have been to the ground. Those who have been, know that it would be impossible to expand the stadium by more than 10,000 seats, and even that's pushing it.

We have been told that Levy is due to have a meeting with the council in December. Let's hope that something comes of it.

We cannot expand White Hart Lane at the moment due to the transport infrastructure not being in place.

Are you for us moving from the Lane? If so, where in London do you think we could build a new stadium?

150 comments

  1. I would love us to stay at WHL but like you say increasing capacity at WHL is all good and well but with the transport links being so bad it will only make match days worse.

    Personally with the talk of Spurs moving the training ground to Whitewebbs in Enfield (hand for me as I back onto that) I guess the only option would be for the ground to go up at Picketts Lock as it's out of the way of towns etc and might make life easier for us fans travelling on match days.
  2. "Are you for us moving from the Lane? If so, where in London do you think we could build a new stadium?"


    WOOLWICH?

    :-)
  3. I wouldnt really be up for moving from the lane.i dont think arsenal will fill there new stadium to be honest they needed it a few years ago when they were top dogs now they are on the decline a bit and could end up in big trouble as they wont be bringing enough success for there glory hunter fan base to fill a ground like that. thbn you reckoned 10,000 more at the lane i think this would be enough for now i think , the only prob with that is loss of revenue while the building is going on but 46,000 at the lane would be amazing and we would easily fill it.
  4. We would definitely fill the ground in 80% of games.

    The cost is roughly £150 - £350 million depending on what the stadium requirements are.

    Of course the club will need to take a loan against the stadium in order to build it.

    THBN Team
  5. Where would we put the extra 10,000? We would have to knock down the West stand and rebuild it.

    It would look nice as a 3 tier stand.

    THBN Team
  6. why would we want to move from the lane, arsenal are doing it but they have previous for being nomads. the lane is part of tottenham and its eyes have seen all the glory and will again im sure, i dont see the point of losing all that and getting hundreds of millions of debt in the process, COYS
  7. Perhaps the Olympics will make a difference, there will be a neec to review transport infrastructure, especially in North London with the new Wembley. There might also be some form of incentive or grant available in return for use of facilities.

    Meanwhile an increase to 45K would, I agree probably be sufficient in the medium term.

    Longer term the future of the game will be with TV with the Champions League becoming the PL of Europe and then in turn contributing to a World League all on TV for a hefty fee.
  8. the most fans or biggest grounds havnt always got the best atmosphere tho i personally have been to the bar codes and old trafford with the spurs for the last few seasons and out sung them every time i think we'd be sorted if we could get 10, 000 more at the lane.
  9. What about the way southampton(twats) stayed up every year when they had there old(shit) close intimidating ground and when they got a bigger(even shitter ground) there down in a couple of seasons .think of the highbury libary now and how quiet and crap there new shit hole will be
  10. This is a rumour from a few years ago I heard from my brother, Who works for the old bill in a North london Borough(!). Apparently a site was tentatively nominated at Millmeads, near Tottenham Hale. Not sure if this comes under Haringey or Waltham Forest, but either way would still be close to Tottenham Hale tube & BR station. Access by public transport is essential by any borough's planners, but the one way system is pretty murderous round there anytime - not sure what happened to this plan - has it been shelved? Anybody know?
  11. Morning Guys..

    Hmm.. Moving Spurs to Tottenham Hale... there might be some legs in that idea, even tho' it pains me to say it. The transport links would be better, even tho' the one-way system is poo. It's not too far away... How big is this plot of land, Hare?
  12. The answer is simple.
    Regenerate Seven Sisters Rd.Build a tram line from S.S. station to White Hart Lane(HEAVEN),knock down the West stand(holds 7500) and build a simular stand that Leeds have(holds 22,500-biggest cantalever stand in Europe).
    The ground then holds just over 50,000,the attn. we use to get in `87 evening games agaisnt Man Usa & Everton.
    Cost of 1 new stand and help fund regen. will be cheaper and we will still be in Heaven.
  13. Short term pain for long term gain.Park Lane and Paxton Road went through it.
  14. re Millmeads site - not sure how big the site is, Old Bill were asked for their comments, probably regarding movement of people from the tube station, but as I said, this was all a few years ago. No point in building a new stadium unless you're aiming for a 50,000 capacity minimum. I know that there is still some tatty factories/warehouses around there, and you would want Haringey/Waltham Forest to use some planning muscle like Islington did for the gooners. Point is, How much does Levy want to spend and how friendly are the local authorities going to be? We need someone in the planning departments of these boroughs to quietly cough some information.
  15. A refurbishment to a stand like that would take a year. That equates to more than a season of being without 4 stands.

    I suppose it would do for the short term.

    We definitely need to have a capacity of at least 48-52k.

    We will keep the atmostphere.

    I am all for the tram system. I believe it was mentioned a year back by the council or by someone on the Spurs board.

    THBN Team
  16. I love the lane, being going since I was 4 but its a bugger to get to and even worst to leave.....how about Wembley??

    DG
  17. We can confirm that the Haringay council definitely do not want us to move.

    The area is already run down and the club offer revenue for the area on matchdays.

    If the club were to move away, the area would crumble financially.

    The transport will be upgraded if the government pushes the burocrats in making a decision.

    THBN Team
  18. If that's the case PoshSpur, then we should get the council to cough up some dough for us to upgrade the West Stand and transport links.

    Any chance of getting some spare shekles from the 2012 Olympics pot?
  19. Hey guys......I was born at Willoughby Park Road....just down from the lane....followed them for 50 years this year.....thing is I moved to Brisbane Australia...we have a great stadium here that seats 70,000.......how about moving here?....it only fair!!!!

    PLEASE!!!!!!!!
  20. Wembley-your aving a laugh.I use to live there and some days it was quicker getting to the Lane than a 1 mile drive to Wembley stadium(and that is when there was nothing on there)
  21. But haven't they redeveloped the transport links along with the re-build??

    DG
  22. not being funny boys but if it was wembley we'd be playing in a half empty ground nost weeks
  23. But you could lower the price of the seats to get in the fans and generate the same revenue as a 60k stadium. Not that I know anything about how big Wembely is going to be.

    DG
  24. This all seems to point to some small-scale re-developments of the Lane in some areas over a number of years. Apart from the West Stand, what other areas could be targeted?
  25. Wembley Stadium eh!.....

    OK whats next....Wembley Hotspurs?

    Picketts Lock Hotspurs?

    Want to change the name next right?

    Get real...stop thinking like Arse twats! We are not nomads!

    WE ARE TOTTENHAM......AND WE HAVE TO STAY TOTTENHAM!
  26. someone told me last season that we'd bought the bit behind the paxton end and i think they were charging people to park in there, well anyway this fella told me they wanted to make the paxton bigger and build on some kind of leisure complex on the land they had bought any of this true?
  27. The Facts
    Wembley cannot be used as a home ground for any club side-part of lottery funding conditions.
    Olympic stadium capacity is being reduced to 25,000 after the games.

    Make the Lane bigger-as Belinda Carlise once said`Heaven is a place on earth`and she`s been a season ticket holder for 25 years
  28. somone told me there gonna put seats on the running track right up to the touchline - that'll be 5,000 more people
  29. The only other option is Picketts Lock.

    I would prefer to replace the West Stand and East Stand.

    We also heard something about the Paxton end, but it was just a rumour.

    THBN Team
  30. THBN, it was my understanding that we had planning permission to redevelop the East stand into a three tier stand? This would raise the capacity to 44,000. These plans were drawn up in the sugar era, does Levy now want to carry out these plans to both sides of the stadium?
  31. roydanfan, i two have seen copies of these pictures, they lookvery impressive and it seems that the development of shops (presumably) would help pay for the cost of the stadium.
  32. We approximated the turnover.

    If our figures are 1 or 2 million out then we are sorry for that.

    As regards the East stand; THBN wasn't around at that time, but I personally remember Sugar wanting to close the road directly behind it. We own the small soccer fields behind also.

    I know that the East stand is a listed building also, but to what degree I do not know.

    My understanding was that if the East stand was going to be redeveloped, then we would expand it beyond the road behind the stand.

    I am not sure why nothing happened.

    We also saw the West Stand pictures. They did look impressive.

    We do not have them either.

    THBN Team
  33. Leave the hallowed turf?? Are you lot kidding me????
  34. THBN, your are correct about access behind the East Stand, it would be for emergency vehicles and pedestrians only.

    I haven't got the pictures either!!
  35. Like some said, it didn't work for Southampton, and it may backfire on the Arse. Maybe we need to see how it pans out for them before we leave The Lane.
  36. its working for southampton???? did you see there ground the other day there was no one there yeah well working
  37. I tihnk you seem to forget that Arsenal will be paying sometihng like at least 15 million a year for the next 15-20 years. It will be a long time beofre they see the full benefits of te new stadium
  38. Tottenham are a shit club, who will never amount to anything. Every year we hear "this is it, we're gonna finish in the top 6, blah, blah, blah, blah" Even you must get bored of hearing it!!!

    You will be forever in the shadow of the mighty red and white army!!!

    UP THE GUNNERS!!!
  39. For once I agree with Figlio

    Cant we change the subject.

    THBN what are your "sources" saying this morning ?
  40. we could just wait and buy Arsenals ground when they go under in 2 or 3 years :))
  41. Wait til davids snaps off wengers little boys in the middle of the park gooner scum then were see, youve just lost your midfield talisman and weve gained ours mug
  42. You must be joking if you consider little tottenham as capable as arsenal, then you shouldnt be talking about football, you are dreaming and have no idea, but is good for you to have dreams.! 38/16/12/0 les invisibles Poor spurs
  43. You poor deluded fool. You cant even fill that cesspit you have now most weeks. You need success to generate the income for a new stadium (and fans to fill it). You lot make me laugh with your visions of grandure. You have n't won the league in in 44 years and you still consider yourself a big club with big ideas. Grow up and remember your insignificant standing in life.
  44. Yeah mat you said yourself tho that they had been dicing with relegation for a decade so what say 8 yrs in there old ground and manage too stay up, a couple in the new and see ya
  45. Just joking fig - Your a ledgend here.

    But please this is a dull subject I agree its important etc but its a bit like work,and I come on here to avoid work.

    THBN - come on spill some Gossip.

    Do you have any ?
  46. we definatly need a new stadium if we are going to compete with the scum and other top teams
  47. The gooner scum have nothing to talk about so they are trying to blind us with their intellect!!
  48. This post is just cracking me up. All of you moaning about wanting to stay at WHL. It's alright splashing out on players all the time with no rewards. Arsenal have not spalshed out and look at the success they've had over the years. And in just over a years time, it hates me to say it that they are going to have one of the greatest staiums in the world, that is also a money making machine, forget the extra 13m just in tickets, what about corporate money etc it's going to be more like 30m per year extra for them. Just admit it, they took a gamble that has paid off and not boast one of THE best stadiums in the world right next to theor existing one. Get real, to get to the next level a new bigger stadium is needed. Stop going on about the good old days, there haven't been any for years now.
  49. 44 years, you're having a laugh...

    You all amaze me, you are not a big club.
    Davids will play less games than Anderton did.

    We get this every year, optimistic sperz fans, by the time your tans gone you'll be in your usual fight for mid-table supremacy.

    Useless. FDucking Useless.
  50. m8 exactly right
  51. We don’t have the biggest ground but do have some of the highest prices – it’s tried an trusted – not great for all fans but works? We don’t need to have the biggest ground or try to match Arsenal. We def need a new stadium but a profitable one may not be 60,000 seats, although if Arsenal can fill one, we will have no problems – we still attract support despite results.
  52. From SSN

    Kaiserslautern's bid to sign Javad Nekounam could be set to collapse amid speculation Tottenham Hotspur and Galatasaray want to sign the Iran international.

    New FCK coach Michael Henke has made the 24-year-old Pas Tehran star his number one transfer target.

    The deal appeared as good as settled with Nekounam, who is tied to Pas until 2006, due to arrive in Kaiserslautern on Monday until his club insisted that the player remains at home.

    “We would have been clear with the player but the club has so far not accepted our offer,” declared FCK president Rene C Jaggi, who fears being priced out of the deal.

    Reports in Iran suggested that Turkish giants Galatasaray and ambitious Premiership outfit Tottenham are also interested in the midfielder and could be ready to launch a last-minute bid which could scupper the planned move to Kaiserslautern.

    Spurs had been linked with Nekounam last month, with reports suggesting Martin Jol wanted to take the midfielder and his compatriot Hossein …
  53. A successful Spurs team can fill 55,000 a week no problem. Just look how hard it is to get tickets these days. I'm up for the move. We have a ok stadium in the worst location in the country!
  54. Perhaps you guys can move to Siberia? Not bad, you'll be far away from the Arsenal and you won't get pulverised each year!

    :-)
  55. Shit team, shit ground same old pre season shit... we back we this we that... your NOTHING.. stay where you are and be shit as usual least it will save u money 2 buy more shit players
  56. how about moving to the new wembley or olympic stadium for one season whilst all the improvments are being carried out.
    just an idea??
  57. Leave the Lane - R U Friggin crazy? Picketts Lock isnt even in Tottenham, We're not ground sharing at Wembly or any of the other stupid schemes I've heard of the years.

    I was born and raised in the Shadow of the Lane, went to school behind it, I know the impact that club has on the local area's business. If WHL were demolished it would have a Devestating impact on the N17 area. not to mention local landmarks like the Corner Pin, Queens Arms etc would all probably close. N17 is in intregal part of THFC and always should be!

    COYS
  58. what are you guys on? we'll never be as good as our rivals up the road and the sooner we realise that the better. yes, we may have some good players but everyone knows the likes of robinson, carrick and defoe would all have chosen them over us had they had a choice. the fact is, they're a bigger club with a better manager, better stadium and better players. yes we may have davids but bolton had hierro. means nothing when they're that age.
  59. Spud hater.

    Keep it up. We'll be sure to give you a nice wave on our way past you bunch of past timers.

    "Slip sliding away, slip sliding a-way"
  60. A succesful sperz team, would play under flying pigs.

    Muppets.
  61. Hello, I am an Arsenal fan, but as I am not from London, nor from Britain, so I don't give a Mourinho for the rivalry of those two clubs. Therefore, I do not understand really, why you have to compare them... Arsenal does this - so we have to do that as well.

    I must say, that since Jol has joined you I even have started to follow some of your results, as you are showing some nice football. You have some decent players. Just build on this, and don't think about Arsenal.

    A stadiumn needs to be built only if you see reason for that - and are you really so obsessed with arsenal that you need to build oine just because we are doing it? Do you think that we are having only good time with the stadiumn?

    Now looking objectively - Arsenal is a club that is still a level above Spurs (c'mon, it is like that). However, I am sure Jol is a managare that can improve Tottenham dramatically. Wait for that and then think about the stadiumn. (To illustrate my point - if you had a 200K stadiumn, …
  62. Any scum on here get the message were on the up and if you think thats funny or bollocks its going to be that more enjoyable when we shock the prem this year, the one main player that used to do well against us is gone and were going to boss the midfield and the game when we play you bring it on cant wait
  63. We will never be able to sell the season tickets. We already advertise now in a desperate bid to sell left over season tickets mid-season.

    It hurts, but Arsenal are still so far ahead of us. They will fill their stadium twice over from the ticket waiting list. They will also make a fortune from property sales etc in the new developments.

    We got Davids coz clubs bigger than us had no interest in him, he's 32 and on the slide and we have a long way to go before we can catch them.
  64. Hey 12.13 ANon
    Im also in Brisbane and life long spurs fan, Imagine having Spurs play at Suncorp Stadium. Makes me hard just thinking about it!!!
    I been to the lane every time i get to UK but i agree its a bitch to get to and even more so to get out of but for petes sake there arent man big stadiums in major cities that arent hard to get in and out of. I say stick to the lane, build 3 tiers on west and concentrate on fixing the infrastructure into and out of. I believe cheaper less hassles and still in same place for historys sake. But if you want to move im more than willing to say move to Brisbane where you will have at least 2 lifelong dedicated supporters day and night!!
    Take care all...
    Go the SPURS 05/06!!!
  65. Move east, the north is already taken. Move along there, nothing for you here.
  66. You lot are doing what you always do EVERY SUMMER. That is get extremely excited cos you are not losing games (hello Swedish part-timers), revel in your revolving door transfer poilcy, snigger at the low incomings at Highbury. Every year. Throw in a departure a la Overmars, Anelka, Petit or Vieira over the road and it is time for the tissues. "Arsenal are finished, Tottenham are back, pass the PIMMS!!"

    Problem is, then the games start. You lose away against all the teams you always lose against (Blackburn, Portsmouth, Newcastle, Bolton, Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, anyone ooop North actually) and it is time for the bitching. The phone-ins. The message boards.

    Arsenal, the team in decline whose four trophies in consecutive seasons you have chosen to ignore, keep ticking.

    You are right in one aspect in that the new stadium is going to blow you out of the water, not least due to the NIKE and Emirates deals that have reduced the payments. My friends we will have a bigger matc…
  67. Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear.

    Look at you lot go on. Once you can see that the new Arsenal Stadium will make your lives more of a misery than it already is and you start to look to the future that whine about staying at WHL the better the outlook would be.
    Remeber with all the money you spent Bolton, boro and Man City all finished above you.
    Small team, small ground and most aof all small minds.

    By the way this post is keeping me and my mates laughing all day long.

    You lot are sooooo SAD !!!!
  68. figlio di lupo, what r u on? no domestic trophies again you said. how about the fact they've won at least 1 domestic trophy in each of the last 4 seasons? coincidently, the same 4 seasons that a certain ex player has been there
  69. spurredon,

    Check the official website there are only 400 season tickets left.
  70. You are a not nice Gooner man. Leave those nice Spuds alone. Leave the tits to their delusions.
  71. when woz the last time you won anything ?? europe is something you lot only ever see on an atlas (thats road map for the lesser brained spuds!)??? your deluded loosers which is why you turn up at shite hart lane every other week....! I'd rather watch Orient...! similar shit ground as well mind you...
  72. Unforunatly we will have too move from WHL and within the next 5 years.

    The local transport system will not be able to cope with a increase capacity a WHL. Their is no real area around the statdium to develop and to rebuild a stand could take 2-3 years. Wont take much longer to build a stadium.

    We have already looked at the area at Picketts Lock. I also think that is the right area for the stadium although the roads around there will have to be looked at as in rush hour it gets very congested, especially if M25 is blocked.

    The club are developing for the future and if we started to build nowwe will still have a great squard of players (unlike the scum).

    It can be finaced in a number of ways.

    reports suggest that ENIC are creaming their pants at the way DL as moved Tottenham forward. A deal where ENIC buy our ground at WHL now will fund most of the deveopmentand we will give them the ground once the new one is built. As it has already been said, we are one of the 20 richest clubs.

    Its the on…
  73. Fuck me this is boring.

    Its gone Quiet on JJ Fig I agree.

    Just wonder what THBN have to say about it - or are you still reading the papers to qoute your "sources"..

    Maybe were after Jermaine Jackson
  74. i think that leaving grounds is a great idea. what we need to do is downsize, we can't even fill shite hart lane. do u think we could groundshare with barnet?? may fill that if a few bees fans convert?
  75. just a message to any other gooners out there: are you enjoying this as much as me? its keeping work very entertaining. also, saw sol in the grove this morning. said something about having 5 medals to his name now.
  76. I have to say surely the Olympic stadium would have to be the ideal choice - direct trains from the city/stanstead and even from France? all the infrastructure rebuild it must be worthwhile...
  77. EXACTLY daveyboy - there are STILL tickets left. We can't sell 35,000 so how would we sell 60,000 (as Arsenal will do in a years time)

    I'm sure if you go to the scum site you won't see any season tickets for sale (and there first few months of home games will no doubt be sold too). The have waiting lists going on years for their season tickets and will sell them as soon as they are available.
  78. THE REAL ANGRY MAN.

    Why are you having a pop at me, just 'cos I have a 4 bedroom townhouse in Islington, been going all my life and eard 125k+ per year, does your post really make a difference

    You stupid, poor peasant
  79. A case can certainly be made that teams with larger capacity stadiums will have something of an edge over us – but DL has made the point that with the ever more extensive TV coverage of games this has become less of a factor. He has questioned whether such stadia will be used to full capacity in future years. Who knows?

    Much as I, personally, would like to see Spurs with a stadium to match Ashburton Grove, there seems little chance of it happening in any sort of foreseeable future. Arsenal have been extremely fortunate on the property development front, which has made their new stadium possible. WHL sadly doesn’t have anywhere near the sort of redevelopment value to allow us to easily emulate them.

    This description of the redevelopment of the East Stand was published in 2001, and is apparently still current.
    “The proposed replacement will cantilever above Worcester Avenue with the road subsequently landscaped to a high quality and closed to vehicular traffic. However, the ceiling would b…
  80. Alan Sugar said a couple of years back that in five years time ticket prices will significantly reduce and all clubs will struggle to fill their stadia, why? Simple soon all of your clubs matches will be on pay per view I am of the opinion that he has got this spot on. So staying at WHL and improving the stands I think is by far the solution with the least risk to the club, no doubt when PPV materialises we will still have very good attendances but 60k when you can watch it on the box is very doubtful so why move. Long term solution is to get your fan base world wide (as all the top clubs are currently doing with pre season tours) and then watch the cash come in on your PPV sales.
  81. I was starting to hate chelsea more than the scum but cheers muppets for reminding me and waking me up to the fact that the gooners will always be number 1 wankers
  82. good point kmiles. cesc, cole, senderos, toure, van persie, flamini are all very old. henry, gilberto, ljungberg, lauren who make up the rest of the team are 28 by the way
  83. all u gooner scum piss off!! you wait til u move in 2 your stadium and all the money your getting goes to the creditors and banks to pay for the crap ground i will have joy in watching arsenal turn out like leeds!
  84. You must think having Chas and Dave as celebrity fans gives you the right to be a big club?

    2 league titles doesn't give you that right.

    Just to remind you all, we've won 2 titles at you're shit hole.

    So please don't move, we feel quite lucky up your way.

    And brain dead, thats not just because of Vieira. From memory we've always been the bigger club.
    Its not just the last 9 years.

    Anyone can walk through your midfield.

    Cause you're shit.
  85. i think that we should be moved into the new wembly stadium to keep it used and in good condition. if it is underused by england and cup finals then wot is the point in actually building it??? we are the only big london club that actually need a bigger stadium ahead of the scum and chelskum!!

    ON THE ROAD TO WEMBKY AGAINN!!
  86. GOONER STU

    125kpa - is that all.

    How the fuck do you manage on that.

    You get discounted tickets then ?
  87. spurs hater fuck you .arsenal soporter are dik heads
  88. Lets give MJ a new chant.
    Remember the one we set aside for Steve Archibald - We'll take more care of you - it also fits Martin Jol. That song was a Spurs alone chorus, and had some respect. Time it came out again instead of the one we hear now.
  89. Don't forget the Wembley Link, it was all over the rumour mill over the last few months, we don't have to buy or build a stadium we can go and play at the national ground!
  90. All the gooners in here are probably the same ones that run off every year from the yid army but they feel safe behind there keyboard
  91. Boys,

    Lets not to get carried away!! - Lets start winning things again, before we worry about buliding a brand new stadium.

    I do agree with beefing up the capacity at the Lane.....but not going as far as a new stadium

    Besides.....the lane is Holy Ground!!
  92. All the gooners on here have probably won a league in their lifetime, you prick
  93. why are you all players then got the medals yourself and that .. i think you might find your the prick
  94. One main player who used to do well? I'm trying to remember the last time Robert Pires DIDNT score at Sh!te hart lane
  95. listen at he end of the day we all know that all gooners are skum and should be dead so lets not go there! arsenals time at the top is over and now they are making way for spurs 2 take chelseas crown aay!
  96. Anon 1:42, we can not share Wembley due to the complex funding arrangements which prohibit any tenants in Wembley.
  97. goner stu fuck you and your arsenal
  98. Yeah, I think spertz are definitely closing in on Arsenal. They could be London's top team soon. Definitely. In fact, they are getting closer to Chelsea too. Uefa cup football next year via the fair play league is a good bet. Arsenal would die for such talents as Mido and Routledge. Oh for such jewels. And yes, it would be great to get ripped off by an overated player who is only here for money despite the fact that all you little spertzy fans think he will elevate you to the next level (uefa cup qualification and above man city). He is past it, otherwise he wouldnt be at you. He might be better than Mendes, or Carrick. But he wouldnt get in a top 6 side in the premier league which is why you got him to rinse you dry.

    Get real - you are not closing the gap on Arsenal. You have a bunch of kids not even half as talented as Arsenal's youth. You cannot compete with a team like Middlesbrough and your best hope is Uefa Cup football this season. And that is a sad thing to hope for.
  99. Fig

    Think your right.

    Although the house he lives in is prob with his mummy and daddy.

    And its more like 12.5k.

    CAN WE CHANGE THE SUBJECT COS THIS FUCKING SUCKS.

    THBN are you asleep after your morning milk or what ?
  100. I've heard spurs are looking at moving to Haringay dogs track.
    Yeh I know sounds naf....but they reckon that they can get the capacity up to about 15,000, & the way things are going that is thought to be enough in a couple of years time!
    what do you think? Do you think spurs could fill a 15K capacity stadium?
  101. how does it feel knowing the only trophy you've won in the last 13 years was the worthless cup? also how about the fact that sol picked it up first and a former gooner manager picked it up last?
  102. There, there angryman. Look, old chap, you've disturbed my reading of Bridget's diaries, just before my lengthy banquet luncheon here on my lawn in sunny Islington. Have some champers old boy. It doesn't half calm the fevered brow and make one feel totally spiffing, don't you know.

    Pip pip. And come on The Arsenal!

    ps Do you actually cheer and shout and mouth profanities your games in distant god forsaken N17? How common.
  103. Spurs could always move into a stadium thats definitely much better than what they have now...i heard that a place called Highbury may come available soon...:)
  104. We've won more leagues (11 more to be exact) more Cups, and more North London derbies.

    Not just in the last 12 years.

    In History.

    Why do you think they named an Underground station after us?

    Its because we're an important part of town.

    The only club in North London worth talking about. Arsenal thats who.
  105. If we have ambition, we need to move because WHL is not big enough for a club with serious pretentions to be in the top 5 playing regular European football, and does not have the transport links for a modern sporting stadium.

    So the choice is to build or rent.
    We were £9m in debt at the end of December so we can either load ourseleves up with £300m debt (not impossible and depends what the property developers would pay for WHL, but the interest will sap our player buying considerably) or we can rent a pre-built venue.

    I see 4 options for renting: New Wembley, Ashburton Grove groundshare (horrible thought as it will help Gooners pay for it and make them richer in the long run), The Olympic Stadium, or The Dome.

    For me the Olympic Stadium is without a doubt the best long term option. The transport links will be excellent, it's easily reached from our NE London heartland and it can give us a huge modern stadium to play in. The problem is it won't be available until 2012! I'd g…
  106. A 60.000 stadium isn't necessaty for us at this time.
    I thought wheels were still in motion regarding transport and infastructure development in the area surronding whl.
    if we can resolve this issue the lane could be redeveloped. We own most of the properties behind the Paxton and apparently all of the shops along the high street infront of the west stand.
    if we could put at least 10.000 seats on our existing capacity, with stands that can be developed further if needs be, then we'll certainly be heading in the right direction. 60.000 capacity now would mean empty seats i'm afraid.
  107. Well, the article came up on our newsnow so its always nice to see what you lot are thinking. Yes, we are very panicked.

    I cant wait for you to be let down by Davids. You think you have really gone and done it. Finally a "big" name has come in. And you have arrived. Well, dont get your hopes up. As I said, if he was any good these days, he wouldnt have signed for you. You think that on a free, a team in europe wouldnt have taken him if he had been worth it? You cannot believe that! Oh well, another deluded season for you. Unlucky by the way in last seasons draw for the fair play place in the UEFA cup. YOu gave it a good go.

    And if you think Vieira going brings you closer to us! HAHA! Write us off - thats when we are best! And write yourselves up - that is when you fail the most.
  108. oh yes whitehartlad, i'm very frustrated. think i may go and watch some our famous league title videos to calm myself down. 11 videos should pass a lot of time. why don't you do the same.although it wouldn't pass much time for you would it?
  109. Spurs will do the arsenal this season allday long!
  110. Dan Mac - you are the best! So sharp and so witty. How do you do it?
  111. Hey Gooner scum......My mate got his letter from your arse hole club and it let him know that his season ticket is going up 300% at the new stadium!......you wankers...even your own club knows how fucking stupid you are! ha ha hahahahhahahahhha

    You boys get ready to change clubs again when you are paying of your debt ridden club.... even your own players are trying to jump ship!.....Pires, Campbell, Cole all want out!...Henry lookings like a frightened rat!...he wont stay around long!....at least you glory chasers wont have to go far to chase the next glory team....just down the road to the lane........but we will smell you out....shit for brains always stinks!
  112. your very witty daz. when will u learn not to get over excited?
  113. what are you on? tickets have remained the same and will do for the first 2 seasons you tit
  114. Shows how much you know Campbell......you fuckwit.....still I suppose the letter you got haad big words in it...get someone to read it to you.....fuck you dont even know whats going on at your own club! hah ahahahah
  115. Why are we on here Sheikh? Quite straight forward, really; you amuse us.
  116. thats very strange dan mac. i seem to remember a few years ago some of your lot used to love reminding us you'd won more FA Cups than us. funny how now we've won more you don't think its a big trophy anymore
  117. the xtra £16.5m won't be spent on players it will be spent on paying the loan we will take out to build a new ground...would be good to have a new stadium but not realistsic until we start competing at the top level. Haringey make plenty of ££ from spurs so i'm sure they will look at investing in transport to enable us to expand the ground. capacity of 45,000 would be ideal
  118. Arsenal already turnover more than us, season 2003-04
    Arsenal 115M to our 66M

    Arsenal's turnover will increase by another 60M with their new stadium
    projected for 2006-2007
    175M


    We need to move.
  119. edgar davids has a thing for spurs as he watched our creative attacking football groing up in holland and he prefered this to the boring long ball gooner crap of the time, also he knows our manager so thats why he came moron, just like your manager gets fellow countrymen to join you. except ours dont shag little frog queers as part of the deal like your beloved arse
  120. think you'll find i've already bought mine and its the SAME price dickhead. 949 pounds to be precise. maybe your mates has gone up cos he's changed to a better seat? why don't u get your facts straight
  121. You're just a Scottish Jew was the Archibald song fella. Does anyone want to buy any photos of the Arsenal celebrating another title at Shite Hart Lane?? I have some from the back of your away section '02 and my dad has some from '71.
  122. Interesting debate but I can't see Spurs moving in the medium term. The Olympic stadium already has plans for its use after 2012 so thats unlikely, and the Arse got no government help so don't think Spurs will either. Don't understimate how big a task it is to build a new stadium in London, the cost and hurdles to overcome are vastly greater than any where else in the UK. Spurs have been bigger spenders than the Arse in the last decade, but the whole reason is because they have been pumping cash into the new stadium as a long term investement. Don't forget they have have had 8 years solid of Champs league revenues which dont seem to have been spent on players. Spurs do have strong income and support, but so do the Arse, plus they have had tremendous financial resources over the last decade through their on pitch success which have all been swallowed up by their move. They are taking on a large debt too, which they can afford to do because of their success, but can Spur…
  123. Sorry '04 WHL. Gets so confusing O.T '02. Blimey, I bet you lot are glad you dont have these problems.
  124. C,mon guys be nice...

    Just think what it must be like on the Arse blog.....

    " How's Viera going?"
    "hes gone mate"

    "Oh ...well how's Cole going"
    "he want's to go mate"

    "Oh....well hows Pires doing""
    he would like to go but nobody wants him mate"

    "Oh...is sol coming back?"
    "dont think he wants to mate"


    FUCKING DEPRESSING!!!!

    No wonder they need tocome over here for some fucking action!!!

    Tossers!
  125. We are not your rivals anymore, u do fuck all in the league every year, as for moving stadium, u should move to caravan park!!!!!!!!! up the gooners
  126. Comp Arsenal Spurs
    League 13(Last 2004) 2(last 1961)
    FA Cup 10(last 2005) 8(last 1991)Lg Cup 2 (last 1993) 3(last 1999)
    Europe 2 (last 1994) 3(last 1984)
    Total 27 16

    Nuff said
  127. Why you here then spurs hater fool
  128. right lads, i'm off. its been a pleasure but got some work to do now. look forward to being back on here monday morning, the gooners already 3 points clear of you lot
  129. I would'nt mind moving to a caravan park......can I have your mums address?

    Tossers!
  130. is this on arsenals newsnow??
  131. Something to bear in mind for supporters attending the first 2 home games, buses will be diverted away from the High Road which will only lead to more difficulty getting to the ground. I would not want to move but understand the need for higher gates/higher revenue. Why can't the vic line be extended to Northumberland Park this would help.
  132. ed, you about mate?
  133. he scores against u though doesn't he? surely you didn't just admit your not a big team?
  134. lucky goals? king has no problem? is that we got 5 last year
  135. This was also posted on the Arsenal bulletin board at NN.

    As it's the most interesting thing on the Arsenal NN Section, they felt the need to read it and make their comments, which they are completely entitled to.

    They do seem a bit desperate though.

    THBN Team
  136. WEMBLEY IS THE ANSWER WITH POSSIABLE SHARING IE MAYBE FEEDER CLUB (WEST HAM),LOWER THE PRICE OF TICKET SALES AIMED AT THE LOWER PAID FAN`S OF WEST HAM AND TOTTENHAM THEREFORE FILLING THE GROUND, INFACT MOST SERIOUS SUPPORTERS WOULD BE GRATFULL.YOU WILL GET BOTH SET`S OF FAN`S THAT CAN`T TRAVEL FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER GOING ALONG TO WEMBLEY TO WATCH EITHER SPUR`S OR WEST HAM PLAYING,AND OF COURSE THE HOME TEAM`S LOYAL SUPPORTER`S OF EACH PROSPECTIVE CLUB.
  137. Well said THBN!!!

    Finished your milk and cookies then!
  138. Spurs are non-entities. They never win anything and will never win anything. The club is run by losers that have no ambition. Spurs have no class, and a piddling, disgruntled fan base. Their players don't wear the Tottenham shirt with pride, that much is obvious. They only raise their game twice a year against Arsenal, which they invariably lose. The club are just mid-table fodder for everyone that finishes above them.

    Buy a new stadium, who cares? It won't make any difference.
  139. this is what i find interesting. you lot are supposed to hate chelsea almost as much as you hate us. yet suddenly, cos they're challenging us you think they're great. strange
  140. If we don't make a comment every 5 minutes, it doesn't mean we are not observing the commenting section.

    THBN Team
  141. Just teasing THBN!! Any news for us?
  142. Sorry to bring the gooner scum down even more but your fuckwit manager has now pulled the plug on your new keeper.......(BBC)

    Seems he choose own that cant catch a ball and now one thats to fucking sick to catch one!!!

    hA hahahaahaha

    You fucking losers!!!

    Tossers!
  143. What on earth was this comment?

    While they may not have the funds to compete with us now, they will overhaul us in the next 3 - 5 years.

    Rich List
    6 (7) Arsenal £115m
    14 (16) Tottenham £66.3m


    If they are making almost twice as much - who exactly is trying to play catch up?
  144. None at the moment. We do know that Shepherd wants to oust players from the club that don't want to play for them, e.g. Jenas.

    Souness is on his own trip at the moment. He thinks he's clever in asking for £15 million for a player worth £7 million.

    We have a feeling that Shepherd will accept Spurs next bid (to be made on Friday) of £8.5 million.

    Papers are also stating that Kanoute may be sold as part of a swap, but we think that is just paper talk as no sources have told us or other unofficial sites such news.

    THBN Team
  145. While they do earn more in turnover, they have a much higher expense sheet.

    As regards profit, we make more than them and have done now for the past 2 seasons.
  146. It would be hard to leave WHL after all these years . If we have to leave maybe we could always go over to WOOLWICH.
  147. They can add a tier onto the East stand so that it just overlaps the road (making it a tunnel like Man Utd or Newcastle) and knock down and re-build a 3 tier West stand, with hotel, casino and business centre all backing onto high street, getting rid of all those old shops and rudolphs! Easy! 60,000 capacity and the bus routes, WHL stn and Nrthmbln Pk Stn should easily deal with travel - if not, extend tube line from Northumberland Park. Its that easy! It just costs a bit! New site would have to be on marshes, near Tottenham Hale station.
  148. no we hate chelsea too but to prefer them to you is just a measure of how much we really hate you. fuck off back to south london gooner scum
  149. It's not as easy as that Anon.

    It is easier to build a stadium from new than to redevelop 2 stands.

    We are talking about near a billion being spent by the government and transport authorities in order for us to upgrade to even 48,000 seats.

    THBN Team
  150. Commenting will go off line for the time being.

    Regards

    THBN Team
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