Taking The Plunge In The Market
By Eric from a family of Spurs fans since 1907
For THBN
I am hoping that what we are seeing in the transfer market is MJ and DL being careful, not scared. It’s a bit like watching someone standing by a river in their swimming trunks. What are they waiting for, get in their! Look loads of other people are swimming in different rivers all over the place, like other managers jumping into the transfer market!
But like many rivers out their they could be very cold, very deep or even have alligators crocodiles etc in, or they may not be able to swim. I guess you all think I'm a fruitcake now, but if Souness and Benitez are the ones jumping into the unknown they could find themselves drowning (in debt) or out in the cold (sacked for poor results) or as is most common devoured by the creatures lurking in the murky depths (the fans getting on their backs for very below average performances after great expectations and spending hard earned money on their season tickets).
MJ and DL pondered and haggled on bringing Scott Parker to WHL in a deal with Chelsea. Maybe they should of agreed a price first then when we reached an agreement over Frank Arnesen we could of deducted his fee from our agreement.
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I am hoping that what we are seeing in the transfer market is MJ and DL being careful, not scared. It’s a bit like watching someone standing by a river in their swimming trunks. What are they waiting for, get in their! Look loads of other people are swimming in different rivers all over the place, like other managers jumping into the transfer market!
But like many rivers out their they could be very cold, very deep or even have alligators crocodiles etc in, or they may not be able to swim. I guess you all think I'm a fruitcake now, but if Souness and Benitez are the ones jumping into the unknown they could find themselves drowning (in debt) or out in the cold (sacked for poor results) or as is most common devoured by the creatures lurking in the murky depths (the fans getting on their backs for very below average performances after great expectations and spending hard earned money on their season tickets).
MJ and DL pondered and haggled on bringing Scott Parker to WHL in a deal with Chelsea. Maybe they should of agreed a price first then when we reached an agreement over Frank Arnesen we could of deducted his fee from our agreement.
Time will tell if Scott Parker's huge wages will have put Souness too far in the deep end.
We have looked tentatively at Guti, but I think this would be a dip in cold water for us, as in the past we have looked at Mark Van Bommel, Vangoor of Hesselhink, Van der Meyde, Appiah, Mintal, Rosicky, D'allessandro, Diego, Sneidjer, Downing and Jenas to mention but a few.
So is it cold feet, can't swim, worried about the creatures? Or is it good knowledge?
Well if these players aren't good enough then don't look at them. Maybe it's just paper talk.
Now we come to Julio Baptista (the Beast).
Spurs bid £14 million so MJ and DL must be pretty keen to dive in head first with wet suits on to protect them and a harpoon gun to fend off the sharks.
We have looked tentatively at Guti, but I think this would be a dip in cold water for us, as in the past we have looked at Mark Van Bommel, Vangoor of Hesselhink, Van der Meyde, Appiah, Mintal, Rosicky, D'allessandro, Diego, Sneidjer, Downing and Jenas to mention but a few.
So is it cold feet, can't swim, worried about the creatures? Or is it good knowledge?
Well if these players aren't good enough then don't look at them. Maybe it's just paper talk.
Now we come to Julio Baptista (the Beast).
Spurs bid £14 million so MJ and DL must be pretty keen to dive in head first with wet suits on to protect them and a harpoon gun to fend off the sharks.
Most of us believe The Beast is the man, and if MJ and DL agree then i'm pretty sure he is THE man.
Sevilla want to offload him, although he has three years left on his deal he can leave on the cheap because he would have been at Sevilla for three years. Baptista wants to stay in Spain for his passport and Spurs want their man.
The solution: Offer Sevilla a figure they couldn't afford to turn down (but less than the £14 Million we have offered) between 5 and 10 Million. But the deal is for next season this way Sevilla get another year out of him plus the money to replace him next year.
We offer the Beast a signing on bonus (this way we can keep his wages similar to Robbo’s and Defoe’s, so as not to cause unrest) maybe the rest of the £14 Million (but if possible quite a lot less) we were going to pay.
That way it costs us no more than we are prepared to pay but it's a hell of a sweetener for both Sevilla and Baptista. Imagine something like a £3 to £5 million signing on fee plus Baptista gets his passport he plays in a team he is settled in leading up to a World Cup, and if he is a massive hit in the World Cup (even a minor hit) his value soars through the roof...... But we've already got him.
MJ and DL will be happy in the knowledge that we have our man, and Spurs fans will be more than happy because Jermain Defoe, Robbie Keane and Freddie Kanoute will feel not just a kick up the backside but a forceful wallop making the latter possibly concentrate a little more and maybe RUN for 90 minutes instead of standing with hands on hips like a little tea pot when he loses the ball or someone passes it 3 yards away from him.
The other plus point is that Mido is only on loan till the end of the coming season, so we have his replacement sorted out OR it means we might keep him at a better lower price because we aren't desperate to keep him, but he is desperate to stay because he sees our ambition.
The other thing in Spurs favour is it sends out a Big signal that Spurs are ambitious and moving forward, plus a big name signs for Spurs (remember Blackburn trying to buy Lineker etc, once Kenny Dalglish went as manager the floodgates opened).
I think this signing could open the floodgates for big names thinking ‘yes Spurs are a club going places’. Oh and it would also be a really big one over the neighbours!
We at Spurs already know we are going places, Cerny is the 4th best keeper in the Premiership behind Robo, Chech and Given. We have 3 great young centre backs (all better than Judas was at the same age). Stephen Kelly will soon replace Stevie Carr in the Republic team. We have two fantastic young wide men in Routledge and Lennon. Carrick is probably going to the World Cup. Defoe is a definite. Reto Zeigler, Phil Ifil, Dean Marney, Emil Halfredsson, Mounir el Hamdaoui and Lee Barnard along with Dawson and Huddlestone could have a similar impact as Man U had with Becks, Scholes, Butt, etc. But they had Eric Cantona.
I think Baptista could be our Cantona, big strong fears no-one his style of play will suit the Premiership.
We could loan out a few of Dean Marney, Phil Ifil, Lee Barnard, Marton Fullop, Rodrigo Defendi, Mark Yeates and Arron Lennon. This will give them valuable first team experience for the following season or improve the sale value of them if we find we don't need them.
We could offload Davenport (£2 million), Gardner (£1.5 million), Bunjevcevic (£500,000 or free), Paramot (£2 million), plus two out of Mendes, Brown or Davis. I am sure we could get something like £6 million for the pair. That's £12 million.
We sold Simon Davies for £3.5 million and Atouba for approx £1.5 million and we are supposed to have received something like £8 million for losing Frank Arnesen and it was reported we had about £12 million in the transfer kitty. My calculations make that something in the region of £37 Million.
We need a player in the mould of Lampard, Gerrard, Platt, Bryan Robson or Zidanne. All the successful clubs have had one (all the usual clichés); a box-to-box midfielder with a good engine, that contributes with a good goal tally, chases back, is a talisman, and a leader.
At the moment we have 25 players aged 26 or under, in a few years with a bit of experience and maturity add this type of player along with Baptista and I think we could, NO, would most definitely turn us into a regular Champions League team. We will be a force to be reckoned with!
The Futures bright the Futures BLUE & WHITE (could Spurs print some shirts with this on and can I get some commission?)
Eric from a family of Spurs fans since 1907
Sevilla want to offload him, although he has three years left on his deal he can leave on the cheap because he would have been at Sevilla for three years. Baptista wants to stay in Spain for his passport and Spurs want their man.
The solution: Offer Sevilla a figure they couldn't afford to turn down (but less than the £14 Million we have offered) between 5 and 10 Million. But the deal is for next season this way Sevilla get another year out of him plus the money to replace him next year.
We offer the Beast a signing on bonus (this way we can keep his wages similar to Robbo’s and Defoe’s, so as not to cause unrest) maybe the rest of the £14 Million (but if possible quite a lot less) we were going to pay.
That way it costs us no more than we are prepared to pay but it's a hell of a sweetener for both Sevilla and Baptista. Imagine something like a £3 to £5 million signing on fee plus Baptista gets his passport he plays in a team he is settled in leading up to a World Cup, and if he is a massive hit in the World Cup (even a minor hit) his value soars through the roof...... But we've already got him.
MJ and DL will be happy in the knowledge that we have our man, and Spurs fans will be more than happy because Jermain Defoe, Robbie Keane and Freddie Kanoute will feel not just a kick up the backside but a forceful wallop making the latter possibly concentrate a little more and maybe RUN for 90 minutes instead of standing with hands on hips like a little tea pot when he loses the ball or someone passes it 3 yards away from him.
The other plus point is that Mido is only on loan till the end of the coming season, so we have his replacement sorted out OR it means we might keep him at a better lower price because we aren't desperate to keep him, but he is desperate to stay because he sees our ambition.
The other thing in Spurs favour is it sends out a Big signal that Spurs are ambitious and moving forward, plus a big name signs for Spurs (remember Blackburn trying to buy Lineker etc, once Kenny Dalglish went as manager the floodgates opened).
I think this signing could open the floodgates for big names thinking ‘yes Spurs are a club going places’. Oh and it would also be a really big one over the neighbours!
We at Spurs already know we are going places, Cerny is the 4th best keeper in the Premiership behind Robo, Chech and Given. We have 3 great young centre backs (all better than Judas was at the same age). Stephen Kelly will soon replace Stevie Carr in the Republic team. We have two fantastic young wide men in Routledge and Lennon. Carrick is probably going to the World Cup. Defoe is a definite. Reto Zeigler, Phil Ifil, Dean Marney, Emil Halfredsson, Mounir el Hamdaoui and Lee Barnard along with Dawson and Huddlestone could have a similar impact as Man U had with Becks, Scholes, Butt, etc. But they had Eric Cantona.
I think Baptista could be our Cantona, big strong fears no-one his style of play will suit the Premiership.
We could loan out a few of Dean Marney, Phil Ifil, Lee Barnard, Marton Fullop, Rodrigo Defendi, Mark Yeates and Arron Lennon. This will give them valuable first team experience for the following season or improve the sale value of them if we find we don't need them.
We could offload Davenport (£2 million), Gardner (£1.5 million), Bunjevcevic (£500,000 or free), Paramot (£2 million), plus two out of Mendes, Brown or Davis. I am sure we could get something like £6 million for the pair. That's £12 million.
We sold Simon Davies for £3.5 million and Atouba for approx £1.5 million and we are supposed to have received something like £8 million for losing Frank Arnesen and it was reported we had about £12 million in the transfer kitty. My calculations make that something in the region of £37 Million.
We need a player in the mould of Lampard, Gerrard, Platt, Bryan Robson or Zidanne. All the successful clubs have had one (all the usual clichés); a box-to-box midfielder with a good engine, that contributes with a good goal tally, chases back, is a talisman, and a leader.
At the moment we have 25 players aged 26 or under, in a few years with a bit of experience and maturity add this type of player along with Baptista and I think we could, NO, would most definitely turn us into a regular Champions League team. We will be a force to be reckoned with!
The Futures bright the Futures BLUE & WHITE (could Spurs print some shirts with this on and can I get some commission?)
Eric from a family of Spurs fans since 1907
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everyone would be happy then.
2) Maintain good rapport with Sevilla, and get Baptista next year.
3) If CL appears to be slightly out of reach, dip into January sale.
Do you agree
I dont see the glamour in the UEFA cup anymore. I mean who actually bothered when Lisbon and CSKA were in the final last season?
Chelsea, Arsenal, Man utd and liverpool will definately finish above us. Everton and Newcastle seem to have been adventurous in the transfer market so far and signings like emre to Newcastle are sure to be a hit. If these all finish above of us then we will be 7th, unless we will be lucky enough for two of the above teams to reach the FA cup final again then 7th will not get us UEFA cup football. This is all excluding teams like Middlesborough and Bolton who Man city who all finished above us last season. JF
J.B.
remember our other bigname signings.
Remember REBROV and RICHARDS
Do you know what, sometimes I amaze myself - I'm fucking genius!!
One step at a time, not that i'm not happy spurs have made this bid but we're not able to attract this sought of player yet and are better spending this £14m a couple of high profile players with a bit more experience than we've got at the moment to push us in that direction.
A player like Guti might not be world class, but niethers our mu=idfield so if we can get him for £5-8m then he would be a major improvement along with another player around his age, experience and price then we would be better off.
Why we won't get Baptista - put simply, because he's fucking quality!!
for a better explanation.
He was born about 1981 I think, since then we have won - 2 FA cups and a league cup, and been in Europe 3 times, (all Eufa cup), and done SHIT every time.
He looks at where wev've been finishing in the league, and he has said he followed us since being a boy, so he know's we've been shit!
Basically, even though he supports Spurs, all he's ever known is for Spurs to finish mid-table in the prem every year.
We're not just slating Spurs for the sake of it, we're being realistic - How about you learn something about football, then you can go and support Southend, and tell them that they can sign Ronaldo - because - why not!
Prick!
I gave you r mum a shot in the mouth last night, down in southend.
And he's a fucking dwarf, what are wee gonna do on corners, are team are all midgets, maybe we could get them extra long studs
Fucking dwarfs
Heres to us winning our first title in about 40yrs, COME ON YOU SPURS
We will still be fighting towards the end of the season to be in Europe, I think we will get it, but I'm not eve sure we'll be there for CL.
1. UEFA cup
2. comfortable UEFA cup
3. Champions league
4. Comfortable Champions league
5. Fight for premiership
Don't think there are arguments as to who goes in goal,
but what would your 'Spursenal', 'Spurski' 'Tottenham United' and 'tottenpool' team's look like?!
the thing about merging was just the easiest way to put it. I know what you mean though, I have since confessed my sins and am on a mission (jehova witness style) to convert as many people as possible to the chosen place, of WHL!
Many Spurs fans are a little dim, and a slightly larger number are perhaps not so dim, but have trouble spelling.
DEMENTIA
I like Commoli of St.Etiene also
JEEZ
You really are desperate, you have 2 chances of signing anyone mentioned on this page and they're both 'fuck all'.
As for winning the league, you really are dreamers...and you've had the same dream since 61'. Its time you woke up, you really are as shit as the spelling on this page.
HOW ARE THE LITTLE FUCKERS?
I just dont understand the skepticism amongst us. I think we have even more chance of beating the goons (at least at WHL) this season than the last 10 years.
COYS
ARE THEY THE MUGS FROM ROMFORD WHO SMASH EMPTY PUBS UP AND TELL THE WHOLE WORLD ABOUT IT??
JUST THE SORT OF REMARKS WE EXSPECT FROM MINDLESS WEST HAM FANS WE HAVE MISSED YOUR CHILDEST SILLY TALK FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS.
ICF ICF SILLY TALK WHEN ARE YOU EVER GOING TO TALK SOMETHING ABOUT FOOTBALL, THE ICF FINISHED IN THE 80'S ALL THE OLD FIRM ARE IN THERE LATE 40'S AND EARLY FIFTIES NOW.
LETS TALK FOOTBALL HOW DO YOU THINK WEST HAM WILL DO THIS COMING SEASON.
TRY ANSWERING IN A SENSIBLE WAY IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
I think we will struggle to stay up this year, we have made some good additions with Gabbidon, Yossi Benayoun (who is supposedly class), Konchesky, and if we sign Aston or Baros we can finally oust that mug Zamora. But despite these signing i still believe we lack the depth & quality to compete this year, saying that i do believe we have a better squad than Sunderland, Wigan, West Brom & Fulham so you never know we might scrape it. I also think we'll beat you on the last game of the season at Upton Park!!!
THAT MUST HAVE BEEN REAL FUN FOR YOU LOT TURNING UP EARLY AND SMASHING SOME WINDOWS THE POOR OLD PENSIONERS ENJOYING THEIR PUB LUNCH WERE TERRIFIED, BYE THE WAY THE COCKERAL HAS NOW CLOSED SO DON'T BOTHER SMASHING THE WINDOWS THIS YEAR
Have you renewed you BNP registration or is it NF.
Get the fuck out of here you sad bunch of old wankers.
Thugs like you who continue to get into fights with other supporters spoil it for the rest of us.
Bet you wish you lost more fights and won more match's you fucking pansy!!
Most of the time you 'fans' don't even make it to the game. so in the end football hooligans raise more money on match day for burberry and stone island than you do for yuor club!
Stop getting battered every week outside the ground, and actually bother to watch your team to get battered inside the ground.
Oh, just to show off how hard I am, when I was 12 I smashed a window in a bus stop, so proud of myself you wouldn't believe!!
West Ham Twats!! the Faggots of London ,V the pride of London, can't wait to turn you over at the lane!!
C.O.Y.S
You bunch of keyboard macho arseholes.
and as for Davis going boro - more than welcome to go! He was average at best for Fulham and has been shit for us, I know he's been injured but he will always be injured! the Toffees didn't take him on cause he failed a medical, he's had about 20 small injuries since joining us, and he isn't good enough anyway, Brwon is better and so is mendes, and now we have Huddlestone and Tainio, what's the point in keeping Davis? he is the worst of 6!
Sounds like MJ has settled on his preferred midfield...
Starter/cover:
Routledge/Lennon
Tanio/Mendes
Carrick/Huddlestone
Zeigler/Reid
Also, looks like Guti's going to the Arse. Too bad,as he's world-class, and I thought he'd be a good attacking midfielder for the right price.
You goofs should forget about players like Baptista both now and for the immediate future until we have CL to offer (or at the very least UEFA).
Let's let the youngsters impress, then the bigger names will want to join the Blue & White revolution!
Fuck off back to scotland and follow shit football you big mouthed fucking northerner
and we can do that with the players we have got focus on this first then buy the big ones!
no big name again... another year the same lies....THE BEST TRANSFER WILL BE A NEW BOARD
Keep the faith - it's all we've had for 45 years so why stop believing now when we are so close.
At the moment our squad compared to rest of the premiership is one of the best, without a dought top six,but if we can sign an attacking midfielder who will chip in with 10 or more goals, i think we could be pushing for the top 4, this season..
Guti would be a good signing, i think we should sell davis and brown, not good enough, but keep mendes champions league winner, quality on the ball...
Hopefully we can convince Baptista to join and do one over the scum...
i feel this one player can turn us into top 4 challengers!!!
he is that good!!!
what do you think?
dont be silly we can get someone better than that.
So he scores alot of penalties show me a striker who cant do that!!