Spurs vs Boca Analysis
By ManicSpur
For THBN
Spurs 2 – 2 Boca Juniors
With this being the opening game in our group, my opinion is that we did ok, but lacked that extra something.
I won’t go into the match details as you can read what happened on other sites. What I will say though, is that we either desperately need a left winger or an attacking midfielder, not both.
Reid just isn’t cut out to be a winger. He’s more like a Beckham, but unfortunately not as good. I am not saying that he won’t get better. I am saying that in my opinion, he will never have the ability to take on players on the outside with pace and skill and then cross a ball in from the touchline. He will however, cross from deep and come into the centre every now and then.
The one big drawback that I spotted was that Defoe and Mido continually had to go out into the wide left position in order to pick up the ball.
My opinion is that you either have two out-and-out wingers (in the Routledge criteria), or have an attacking midfielder (Rosicky criteria) and only one right/left winger, with the other flank area occupied by someone like Reid.
If we are to have two out-and-out wingers and an attacking midfielder, we will suffer in the defensive department, as it will be very hard for attack minded players to track back and defend.
The other sore point for me was Keane. His attitude stinks. If a pass to him went slightly astray, he would go bananas. I am sure that he knows he won’t be around much longer.
The good points for me were Defoe and Mido. They really did play well together. Mido is looking better and better with each game, and Defoe is beginning to look world class. Both strikers took their goals superbly.
Routledge was another plus. He will be an outstanding player for us, not just this season, but for many years to come. If he is to become truly great, then he'll need to work on his strength.
I will finally add that the commentary on EuroSport (EU) was terrible. The guy had absolutely no idea. Saying that Jol joined us in November was funny, but then stating that Boca were Brazilians was bloody hilarious!
These are my opinions on the current game play and setup. What are yours?
For THBN
Spurs 2 – 2 Boca Juniors
With this being the opening game in our group, my opinion is that we did ok, but lacked that extra something.
I won’t go into the match details as you can read what happened on other sites. What I will say though, is that we either desperately need a left winger or an attacking midfielder, not both.
Reid just isn’t cut out to be a winger. He’s more like a Beckham, but unfortunately not as good. I am not saying that he won’t get better. I am saying that in my opinion, he will never have the ability to take on players on the outside with pace and skill and then cross a ball in from the touchline. He will however, cross from deep and come into the centre every now and then.
The one big drawback that I spotted was that Defoe and Mido continually had to go out into the wide left position in order to pick up the ball.
My opinion is that you either have two out-and-out wingers (in the Routledge criteria), or have an attacking midfielder (Rosicky criteria) and only one right/left winger, with the other flank area occupied by someone like Reid.
If we are to have two out-and-out wingers and an attacking midfielder, we will suffer in the defensive department, as it will be very hard for attack minded players to track back and defend.
The other sore point for me was Keane. His attitude stinks. If a pass to him went slightly astray, he would go bananas. I am sure that he knows he won’t be around much longer.
The good points for me were Defoe and Mido. They really did play well together. Mido is looking better and better with each game, and Defoe is beginning to look world class. Both strikers took their goals superbly.
Routledge was another plus. He will be an outstanding player for us, not just this season, but for many years to come. If he is to become truly great, then he'll need to work on his strength.
I will finally add that the commentary on EuroSport (EU) was terrible. The guy had absolutely no idea. Saying that Jol joined us in November was funny, but then stating that Boca were Brazilians was bloody hilarious!
These are my opinions on the current game play and setup. What are yours?
90 comments
Reid cant play as a winger.
Tainio did nothing in the game.
Why is Gardner still at the club!
Good commentators are a rare kind, obviously.
but with with Mendes and the Luxury that is the lazy bastard Carrick in the centre and Sean Davis and Brownie he may not play there? El Hamdoui looked good, and Mido (not Midu?) looked like he'd lost a bit of Timber, still got Zeigler to come in on the left, so reid will be on the bench (eating pies :) )
encouraging against a team that have just ended their season, and are still at peak fitness. it will be interesting to see the team on monday, as it will probably be all change
I agree that we need to sign two or three experienced players. For me though they would be one proper left winger, one centre forward to replace Keane and a centre back. I think we are well stocked with quality in the centre of the park but I worry about relying on Dawson, Davenport and Huddlestone at CB because they are so inexperienced; I worry about Gardner because he is so inconsistent; and about Naybet because he is so old now. That Dutch guy who played against England and Jol kept calling 'my boy' would be good.
I think we will still sign people beacuse Levy seems to do a lot of business just before the close of the window.
i thought defoe done well, with mido but there is still no one to link our midfeild and attack ,no cutting edge, thought routledge looked sharp skillfull and lightning quick but needs to build up his upper body strenth, the major problem we have is top top players dont see us an option because of uefa cl format of 4 clubs going in, the same 4 clubs seem to get all the money then finish higher up premier league table and qualify again year in year out so unless we pay silly money for someone and for there wages then we sadly wont be signing any top draw players,if we do pay someone silly money then all that happens will be levy and jol will get a knock on there door from agents of players th…
anyone remember that scum fcuker campbell, ring any bells!!!!!!!!
we have no choice but to shift him but we better not sell him to newcastle as with parker,emre,jenus,dyer in ther midfield and shearer up front with keane behind him, we may as well just compete for 7th or 8th spot cause thats all we can expect if we release our top players to our nearest rivals for europe stop.SELL HIM TO MAN CITY thats if celtic cant afford him
and what the fuck ya mean why marney at right back?! he's right footed, strong, good in the air and will help him improve his defensive game!
routledge on the bench because we have another game in two days! money is on edman at left back, ifil or kelly at right back, naybet and maybe huddlestone cb etc... for the nxt game on monday against the sundowns... COME ON YOU SPURS!
what the views here?
Drove my mum and dad up to see my sister's new baby boy!.. Thought i'd share that!!
Defoe is world class and Mido may turn out to be his best partner.
I like Dawson and Huddlestone oozes class for such a young player. King is superb but we do lack one massive piece to the jigsaw...we need an all running, never defeated, ever inspiring CAPTAIN!
Which brings me to the next point, our Club crest. Will someone please delete the red and yellow.. looks like a last minute add on from the shitty taste eighties!!
COYS!
COYS!!!!!
and as for the cunt who thinks its flash to drive at 135mph,i will laugh my tits off when i read your obituary in the local paper mate.just hope your parents have the sense to take your keys away...ment tard
Other plus's were undoubtedly Routledge and Cerny and it is also nice to see Mido and Mendes getting in a good performance.
The draw back was the back 4 for me as i am not too worried about reid as he will improve and we have Zeigler.
I am certain that this will not be our back four but we do need our first choices to gel especially whoever is chosen to partner King.
There are a couple of people on here that I agree with, but you all keep putting anon, so can't big you up!
Some of you are twats.... the one who said Jol has nothing to do with transfers, the bloke who said Levy has still got loads to prove and the bloke that said Tainio played shit, please read what you wrote and think about it!
1 - Jol (now that Arnesen is buggering off), will have everything to do with transfers, accept the contract negotiations. How could you manage a team if you aren't choosing who you need?!
2 - The Levy thing has already been said by someone elseso I won't go on - but it was a mixture of Pleat and Sugar who left a legacy of problems at the club, which in a couple of short years Levy looks to have turned around. Santini - world cup and european cup winning manager - Levy got him at Spurs, you can't knock that at all, it's not his fault that he turned out to be a cock!
as for Tainio playing shit - involved in both goals…
this is from angryman - make your mind up, is he the man making the decisions - or is he being ill advised on his decisions?
The pleat saga - can't you read? HE DIDN'T EMPLOY PLEAT!! Pleat been at the club for years, finally levy had the forsight to get fuck him off!
as for you paying his wages, having a season ticket etc, certificate of congratulations in post!
You been going for 20 yrs, how many of them years have we not been a mid table team? Levy been there a few years and now we have genuine hope, before we got levy at the club, we weren't even mid-table, finishing 14 - 15 - 12.......... it takes time to turn around 20-30 yrs of nothingness at a club, look at Liverpool, how long has it taken them to come close to being a good team again, it's even taken Man Utd, 3 years without a trophy now, a few years to get the club heading the right way again, and they have 30-40 mill a year to throw at…
Our new signings did well and everyone worked hard for each other in hot conditions.
Defoe looked different class and Mido teamed well with him,Carrick worked his nuts off as did Taino,Reid and Marney(not a right back)were dissapointing and Mendes for me didnt get forward enough.(maybe following orders??)
Anyway a good start and bring on sundowners.
Yid4Life.
Or strategically he felt it was best to crowd the midfield with non-wingers (this includes reid who's more LM than LW) so our shape will always be kept and we wont be easily caught by Boca's speedy counter attacks.
Or he needs to see if we can attack from the middle...
Besides, both shorties Defoe and Owen cant play together!
If anyone is blaming me for starting this conversation, I would like to point out that that is my job.....to start conversations and then get you lot to comment.
Tainio did well. He's very competitive. Cerny did very well also.
We have said for the past month here at THBN that the up-front partnership would be Mido & Defoe, and we are sticking by that. They will complement each others play, as they showed yesterday.
I do believe that Daniel Levy IS the man that will guide us into the top 5 again.
If we are to play only 1 winger (Routledge) and one flank-sided midfielder (Reid), then we will need an attacking midfielder (Rosicky).
We believe the money we have at the moment (approx £18 million) will be used to buy 1 player. No more than £5 million will be spent on that player either.
Here at THBN, we think that we won't be selling anyone but Keane, unless he signs a new contract.
We may bring in Mintal or Rosicky, but that wil…
Owen is already paid handsomely by Real, what he needs now are winners medals. Especially a CL one. Spurs cant even promise a CL match in the future. My logic is, if I were a great player and a big Spurs fan, I'd want to play for Spurs at some stage of my career.
I am afraid top quality players like Owen would have different priorities to think of.
By the way, I am not Singaporean, hence I am not pathetic.
And Owen can come after we've secured our CL place. Or baptista or whoever's worth 18m quid.
Yes he is actually more of a centre forward.
I havent actually stopped drooling over his goals against Germany. His headers were bullet-like, Kahn had absolutely no chance.
Bolton has a record of pretty good signings in the past, namely Okocha and Djorkaeff. They came in cheap but delivered the goods.
SO YOU MOANING BUNCH OF FUCKERS YOU THINK THE FRIENDLY WENT THAT BADLY??? BECAUSE THATS WHAT I GET FROM READING THIS BLOG, TAINIO HAD A HAND IN BOTH OUR GOALS DID HE NOT? HE BROKE UP PLAY WELL AND USED THE BALL WELL ENOUGH PLAYING OUT OF POSITION, REID LOOKED CREATIVE BUT LUCK WERNT ON HIS SIDE, DOES LOOK ABIT FLUSHED THO FIRST TIME IVE THOUGHT THAT, MAYBE SICK OF EVERYONE CALLIN HIM FAT BASTARD HE THOUGHT FUCK IT AND EAT ALL SUMMER!! SHAME DAWS CAME OFF HE WAS HAVING A GOOD PRE SEASON, WERE LOOKING ALRIGHT I RECKON STRIKERS BANGING THEM IN GOOD SIGN 5 GOALS IN 2 GAMES, PLUS BOCA ONLY JUST FINISHED THERE SEASON SO ALOT MORE FITTER ETC THEN OUR BOYS!!
SO YOU MOANING BUNCH OF FUCKERS YOU THINK THE FRIENDLY WENT THAT BADLY??? BECAUSE THATS WHAT I GET FROM READING THIS BLOG, TAINIO HAD A HAND IN BOTH OUR GOALS DID HE NOT? HE BROKE UP PLAY WELL AND USED THE BALL WELL ENOUGH PLAYING OUT OF POSITION, REID LOOKED CREATIVE BUT LUCK WERNT ON HIS SIDE, DOES LOOK ABIT FLUSHED THO FIRST TIME IVE THOUGHT THAT, MAYBE SICK OF EVERYONE CALLIN HIM FAT BASTARD HE THOUGHT FUCK IT AND EAT ALL SUMMER!! SHAME DAWS CAME OFF HE WAS HAVING A GOOD PRE SEASON, WERE LOOKING ALRIGHT I RECKON STRIKERS BANGING THEM IN GOOD SIGN 5 GOALS IN 2 GAMES, PLUS BOCA ONLY JUST FINISHED THERE SEASON SO ALOT MORE FITTER ETC THEN OUR BOYS!!
SWP goes to Chelsea - which although some of you thought we had a chance of getting him, it could turn out to be good for Spurs! Where will he play at Chelsea? who will he replace...
Lampard? Not even gonna bother!!
Robben? - almost certainly not.
Duff? - NO
This leaves Joe Cole looking a bit shakey in his position, He is now a full international, he will want and need to be playing first team football, I don't think Chelsea have spent £21m on a sub.
Maybe we could take on another boy indirectly from our feeder club this time! Joe Cole and Carrick - not just good for Spurs - but England.
Agree/Disagree??
Dont know why anyone would suggest Brown should go, he was one of our most consistant players last season.Reid,fat or not has gotta buck up or warm the bench, I aint seen nothing special from him since we signed him,looks average.
All this about its only our second game etc etc..our players are young FFS they should have no probs with fitness.
A crowded out Joe Cole though, would be a good acquisition.
Rosicky for me would be the number one player. He's fast, has superb vision, is two-footed, can score, and is a great passer of the ball, oh, and he's a box-2-box player.
For all those who think that Tainio will be our attacking midfielder, you are very wrong.
As one guy commented earlier, Teemu is a better version of Michael Brown. He's a battler, not a flair player.
If Rosicky is out of the question, then I would go in for Gera. But as WBA are an English club, their valuation of him may not warrant a bid from us.
Our strange friend in Singapore is correct about Mido. Are we going to put all our faith in a player that isn't even ours? We all (THBN) think he'll make the grade, so I hope Jol signs him in the Jan window.
Sell Keane though. His attitude has been stinking since February. Unless a pass is given to him in the exact specifications that he desires, he goes off on one.
Kanout…
http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/chelsea/article299554.ece
He looks exactly what we need... physical precence, proven EPL quality,goal scoring match winner , leadership quality and pace.I'm not too sure about about Rosicky and those guys with "mozart" like skills with no proven qualities at EPL.Are you going to trade Rosicky for 4mil or pay another additional 2mil for Gera ? If I'm going to bet, I go for the latter.
Another area I think we need to strengthen is the forwards... strange as it may seen.We have individual qualities but the mix is just not correct...so are the personalities....Inconsistent Defoe, sulky Keane, lazy Kanoute and fat Mido.Can't help but feel there would be a late bid for Johnson or Ashton with one of the current 4 sold to make way.
Spurs is not that far off from being a top 5 side and we need …
Tainio looked good on saturday!
I wouldn't consider being involved in two goals nothing!
Reid was shit, dont understand the idea behing the full backs!
Routledge looked good, so did mido(slightly trimmer) and defoe.
Keane had a stinker!